Greg Jenner is joined in Ancient Greece by special guests Prof Michael Scott and comedian Alice Fraser as they examine the start of democracy with the Athenians. Aside from it obviously being a system that only benefitted men, they find out why you’d want to avoid red ropes and broken pots and why the Romans disliked the very idea of it. And they take a look at some of the fundamental issues with democracy that still exist today. You’re Dead To Me is a production by The Athletic for BBC Radio 4. Research by Rosie Rich Written and produced by Emma Nagouse and Greg Jenner Assistant Producer: Emmie Rose Price-Goodfellow Project Management: Siefe Miyo and Isla Matthews Audio Producer: Abi Paterson