In this episode, Allen shares his thoughts on the Saifedean vs. Saylor debate on borrowing against Bitcoin, the role of stablecoins in expanding fiat, and their underlying protocols. He also delves into the risks of stablecoins compared to traditional bank accounts and highlights current technical risks in the crypto space. Allen gives his take on free speech and technologies like Nostr and discusses the growing custody and derivatives activity with institutions like BNY Mellon and IBIT. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00 - Intro 01:26 - Allen’s perspective on the Saifedean vs. Saylor debate regarding borrowing against Bitcoin. 05:55 - Why stablecoins may or may not be more risky than traditional bank accounts. 10:26 - How stablecoins might help in the expansion of fiat currencies globally. 14:46 - Technical risks that Allen is currently concerned about in the crypto space. 27:19 - Whether stablecoins require protocols like Tron or Solana for long-term functionality. 31:51 How institutional involvement is changing the crypto landscape, from custody to derivatives. 39:48 - Allen’s views on free speech, Nostr, and supporting technologies for Bitcoin. 45:48 - The significance of BNY Mellon’s custody services and the approval of derivatives for Bitcoin. Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Allen's (X) Twitter Account. Allen on Nostr. Allen’s book: Bitcoin Is Venice: Essays on the Past and Future of Capitalism. Check out all the books mentioned and discussed in our podcast episodes here. Enjoy ad-free episodes when you subscribe to our Premium Feed. NEW TO THE SHOW? Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Stig, Clay, Kyle, and the other community members. Follow our official social media accounts: X (Twitter) | LinkedIn | | Instagram | Facebook | TikTok. Check out our Bitcoin Fundamentals Starter Packs. Browse through all our episodes (complete with transcripts) here. Try our tool for picking stock winners and managing our portfolios: TIP Finance Tool. Enjoy exclusive perks from our favorite Apps and Services. Stay up-to-date on financial markets and investing strategies through our daily newsletter, We Study Markets. Learn how to better start, manage, and grow your business with the best business podcasts. SPONSORS Support our free podcast by supporting our sponsors: River 7-Eleven Toyota Connect Invest Bluehost TastyTrade Miro American Express The Bitcoin Way ReMarkable Fundrise Facet Onramp SimpleMining Vanta Shopify HELP US OUT! Help us reach new listeners by leaving us a rating and review on Spotify! It takes less than 30 seconds, and really helps our show grow, which allows us to bring on even better guests for you all! Thank you – we really appreciate it! Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm