Imran Ahmed is a man in the middle of the disinformation wars. He is the CEO of the Center for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH), an organization dedicated to researching online hate speech and disinformation. Audie talks with him about how he came to the work, the lawsuit filed against him by Elon Musk’s X Corp. (formerly Twitter), and what it all means for the debate over “free speech” versus “hate speech” online. For more context on today’s conversation, read CNN’s reporting here. And read X Corp’s response to CCDH here. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy