Jase gets a last-minute wake-up call—literally—when his live Fox TV interview gets canceled just minutes before airtime, after hours of prep and a full camera crew setup. While Jase pulls back the curtain on the chaos and inconvenience of showbiz, the guys laugh about what Phil would’ve said if he were here. Zach reveals he discovered a never-before-heard 90-minute voice recording of Phil teaching on the kingdom here and now. The discussion returns to John 10, where Jesus calls himself the Good Shepherd, and the guys dig into why that image still hits hard today, especially when you realize the one watching over you once walked in your shoes. “Unashamed” Episode 1117 is sponsored by: Download the Rocket Money app & tell them you heard about it from Unashamed with the Robertson Family! Apple: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/rocket-money-bills-budgets/id1130616675 | Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.truebill&hl=en_US&pli=1 https://onekingdom.org — Donate to One Kingdom today to help share the gospel! https://myphdweightloss.com — Find out how Al is finally losing weight! Schedule your one-on-one consultation today by visiting the website or calling 864-644-1900. https://puretalk.com/unashamed — Support veterans by switching to America’s wireless company for as little as $25 per month today! Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts. — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices