As today's show hits the air, the treasury secretary is just about to speak as the Trump Administration signals the steep tariffs may soon be loosening up. Meanwhile, his counterpart in the DOD says his wife wasn't just in that Signal chat. We have new CNN reporting on her near constant presence in his inner circle, even though she doesn't have an official position at the Pentagon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices