On today's show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys recap last night's Monday Night Football game between the Seahawks and Giants and the absolutely abysmal performance by the Giants, if they're broken and whether or not they can be fixed, the Seahawks being a real threat in the NFC, and everything else happening around the NFL as we wrap up week 4. Joining the progrum to break down the Giants performance extensively including Danny Dimes' contract, the woeful offensive line, Daboll getting fed up, and much more is ESPN NFL Nation reporter for the New York Giants, Jordan Raanan (12:47-24:19). Next, 13 year NFL veteran at Quarterback, ESPN NFL analyst and QB guru, Dan Orlovsky joins the show to chat about what the issue with Daniel Jones and the Giants is, his thoughts on Zach Wilson's performance, and why he thinks CJ Stroud and Anthony Richardson are special players (1:12:11-1:26:43). Later, 4x NFL MVP, Super Bowl Champion/MVP, 5x All-Pro, 10x Pro Bowler, Quarterback for the New York Jets, Aaron Rodgers joins the progrum to chat about his rehab process, being in the building for the Jets game on Sunday night, his thoughts on Zach Wilson's performance, if great players could step in and coach right away, offensive line troubles around the league and how much is actually on the offensive line, and much more (1:58:34-2:41:46). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices