The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by Ryen Russillo to discuss the Jimmy Butler vs. Miami Heat saga (2:43). Then Bill and Ryen prep for the NBA trade deadline by running through Bill's 2025 NBA Trade Value list (20:12). Host: Bill Simmons Guest: Ryen Russillo Producer: Kyle Crichton The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices