When Presidents Trump and Putin meet in Alaska on Friday, Volodymyr Zelensky will not even be present. Trump said on Monday that he would ‘try and win back territory’ for Ukraine – but also mentioned there will be ‘swapping’ of land. So what’s really on the table - and is it more than just ending the war? This podcast was brought to you thanks to the support of readers of The Times and The Sunday Times. Subscribe today: http://thetimes.com/thestoryGuest: Professor Mark Galeotti, Historian, Times Contributor, Director of Mayak Intelligence and Author of We Need to Talk about Putin.Host: Luke Jones.Producer: Olivia Case.Read more: Xi, not Trump, has the most power over Putin. Will he use it?Clips: CNN, DW News, Reuters, Kremlin.ru, Fox, YouTube / @TimesNow, Al Jazeera. Photo: Getty Images.Get in touch: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.