Stephan & Matt discuss the ‘Save Our Wallets’ campaign, which aims to protect non-custodial wallets from regulatory challenges posed by the U.S. government. He highlights the legal risks developers face due to broad interpretations of regulations and the potential consequences of future administrations. The importance of advocacy for legislative change, user engagement, and improving user experience in Bitcoin transactions are emphasized. Additionally, the conversation touches on the implications of AML and FATF regulations, the evolution of wallet technologies, and the need for research into Miner Extractable Value (MEV) in Bitcoin. They also discuss various aspects of Bitcoin and Ethereum, focusing on the implications of MEV (Miner Extractable Value), the risks of mining centralization, and the importance of investing in solutions rather than relying on consensus changes. They explore the challenges posed by private order flow, the philosophical differences in Bitcoin development, and the future of Bitcoin Core and node adoption.Takeaways????The Save Our Wallets campaign aims to protect non-custodial wallets from regulatory overreach.????Legal challenges are arising for developers of non-custodial wallets due to broad interpretations of money service business regulations.????The DOJ's actions against Samurai Wallet highlight the risks for privacy-focused services in the cryptocurrency space.????Future administrations may pose additional risks to non-custodial wallets if laws are not changed.????Advocacy efforts are crucial to push for legislative changes that protect non-custodial wallets.????User engagement is essential for demonstrating public support for non-custodial wallet protections.????AML and FATF regulations create risks for users and developers in the cryptocurrency space.????User experience in Bitcoin transactions remains a significant barrier to adoption.????The development of graduated wallets could improve user experience and security for Bitcoin users.????Research into MEV (Miner Extractable Value) is necessary to understand and mitigate risks in Bitcoin. Investing in solutions is preferable to consensus changes.????MEV is seen as an inevitable challenge in blockchain.????Mining centralization poses significant risks to Bitcoin's future.????Private order flow can lead to worse price execution for users.????Relay policy can nudge users towards better practices.????Philosophical differences exist in Bitcoin development approaches.????Decentralizing block template creation is crucial for Bitcoin's health.????Layer 2 solutions like Lightning are essential for scaling.????Regulatory protection is necessary for non-custodial wallet developers.????The future of Bitcoin Core depends on community engagement and adoption.Timestamps:(00:00) - Intro(00:43) - What is the ‘Save Our Wallets’ campaign? (07:00) - What is the role of FinCEN & DOJ in regulation(10:25) - Save Our walets advocating for legislative changes (20:22) - The importance of CLARITY Act(23:26) - What are the broader implications of AML & FATF regulations? (27:42) - The challenge of bad user experience for onboarding masses to Bitcoin(32:21) - Innovations in Bitcoin wallets; BIP 353 - DNS Payment Instructions(40:36) - Understanding MEVil risks in Bitcoin(48:05) - Mitigating MEVil risks in Bitcoin(59:25) - Mining Centralization and Profitability(1:12:22) - Comparing RBF debates to the current relay policy debates(1:21:48) - Philosophical differences in Bitcoin governance(1:31:11) - Will Bitcoin core remain the dominant implementation?(1:34:00) - Trusted & non-trusted Layer 2 solutions (1:41:40) - Closing thoughtsLinks: https://x.com/TheBlueMatt https://bluematt.bitcoin.ninja/ https://saveourwallets.org/https://bitcoinmagazine.com/technical/mevpool-the-best-bandaid-we-have-for-mev Sponsors:Bold BitcoinCoinKite.com (code LIVERA)Lana by GaloyStephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack