There is no bigger cultural story right now than the romance between NFL superstar Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift. The reaction to their relationship has been so extreme that parody is almost indiscernible from reality. It’s a potent mix of celebrity culture, sports, and extreme politics. Audie brings together Cari Champion and Anne Helen Peterson, to dissect why all of this is happening. Why have Travis and Taylor generated a supernova of fans, haters, and overwhelming scrutiny? Cari Champion is the host of the podcast Naked with Cari Champion and former anchor of ESPN’s SportsCenter. Anne Helen Peterson is the author of Culture Study on Substack, and the host of the Culture Study podcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices