What's it like to hand your life over to someone who claims they’ll make it better? That’s what The Dream, a podcast from Pushkin Industries and Little Everywhere, is exploring this season. Enjoy this episode from the show. Jessie Lee Ward, the self-proclaimed “#1 network marketer in the world,” charges her coaching clients thousands of dollars for a trip to Colombia that's described like a work retreat. The reality is more like a brutal 15 hour hike, with late night hypothermia. Is this what it takes to be successful in life and business? You can binge the entire season early and ad-free with Pushkin+ on The Dream’s Apple Show page or at pushkin.fm/plus. Or, listen to the show weekly wherever you get your podcasts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.