Apologies listeners,The wrong accidentally uploaded the wrong audio in the last episode post. That episode has now been taken down, and this is now "THE REAL" Chat_135!Sorry to keep you guys hanging on this one, which is a truly fantastic episode.Enjoy!***"I think there's a very clear distinction between inflation and hyperinflation.One is a rational response to an increase in the money supply. Right? So if the money supply is increasing by 10%, you increase the price of your assets by 10%. That's inflation.Now, hyperinflation is emotional. Hyperinflation is a forced liquidation of your assets and your currency. And you're doing a market sell order not knowing what the price of sale is. You just want out. You will take anything."~ Mauricio Di Bartolomeo Mauricio Di Bartolomeo’s story starts with the collapse of Venezuela, but it’s not one of defeat — it’s about resilience, conviction, and building tools for sovereignty. In this conversation, we talk about why Ledn is returning to its Bitcoin-only roots, why the crypto lending space is headed for trouble, and what it actually takes to survive a bear market. Mauricio shares how mining Bitcoin helped his family escape hyperinflation, why capital controls are more familiar to most of the world than freedom, and what makes a good lender when the tide goes out. We also dig into why removing features can be a sign of strength, not weakness — and how building slowly, honestly, and with proof of reserves can sometimes be the real edge. Bitcoin Audible & Guy Swann Links ?Guy on Nostr ?(Link: http://tinyurl.com/2xc96ney) ?Guy on X ?(Link: https://twitter.com/theguyswann) Guy on Instagram (Link: https://www.instagram.com/theguyswann) Guy on TikTok (Link: https://www.tiktok.com/@theguyswann) Guy on YouTube (Link: https://www.youtube.com/@theguyswann) ?Bitcoin Audible on X? (Link: https://twitter.com/BitcoinAudible) The Guy Swann Network Broadcast Room on Keet (Link: https://tinyurl.com/3na6v839) Check out our awesome sponsors! HRF: Subscribe for free to HRF's Financial Freedom Report to stay updated on our latest work advancing freedom tech and defending human rights around the world. (Link: https://hrf.org/financial-freedom-reports/) OFF: The Oslo Freedom Forum (OFF) is an international human rights conference series hosted and produced by the Human Rights Foundation (HRF). Bringing together the world’s most engaging human rights advocates, journalists, artists, tech entrepreneurs, and world leaders, we aim to share their stories and brainstorm ways to expand freedom and unleash human potential across the globe. Don't miss next year’s Oslo Freedom Forum in June. (Link: https://oslofreedomforum.com/) Pubky: Pubky is building the next web, a decentralized system designed to put control back in your hands. Escape censorship, algorithmic manipulation, and walled gardens by owning your identity and data. Explore the Pubky web and become the algorithm today. (Link: https://pubky.org/) Trying to BUY BITCOIN? River...