Outmanned and outgunned, Ukraine must work creatively to make a dent in Russia's war machine. Long-range drones that strike deep inside Russia are one of those innovations. Correspondent Fred Pleitgen was given exclusive access to one top-secret drone unit, and brings us a report from the frontline. Also on today's show: former NATO Deputy Secretary-General Rose Gottemoeller; NPR music critic Ann Powers; PolitiFact founder Bill Adair Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices