Pope Francis, the leader of the Catholic church, is dead. We get the latest from Vatican City, plus reflections from Cardinal Blase Cupich of Chicago, who will be one of the few people to choose the next pope. Then we bring you insight from a reporter who interviewed Francis and was knighted by him. Plus, religious scholar David Gibson joins the show to discuss on the Francis's moral authority in a world of strongmen. And we look back at Christiane's conversation with filmmaker Wim Wenders about his revealing portrait of the pope as you've never seen him before. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices