It's become a rite of passage for world leaders: the Oval Office meeting with President Trump. Now, it's the turn of the relatively new Chancellor of Germany, Friedrich Merz. Germany is the focal point for much of Trump's ire towards Europe, and a key priority will be to stave off looming tariffs. But also, high on the agenda is Ukraine. Member of German Parliament for Merz's CDU party, Norbert Röttgen, joins the show from Berlin. Also on today's show: CNN senior White House reporter Kevin Liptak; author Evan Osnos ("The Have and Have-Yachts: Dispatches on the Ultrarich"); Flexport founder/CEO Ryan Petersen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices